Matthew and Dan.
Matthew Clausen and I recorded this podcast on a dark and breezy night, while sitting atop the Great Wall of China. We had just finished a long day of trekking on the wall, starting at the popular restored section of Mutianyu, and ending at “wild” Jiankou. We had a fantastic time reminiscing his week-long visit to Beijing, culminating in this outdoor adventure. We also discussed rock climbing, our views on what it means to travel, and much more. 
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Show Notes:
- According to worldpopulationreview.com, the district of Huairou (怀柔区), from which we recorded this podcast, has a population of 373,000, barely a blip on the radar by Chinese population standards.
- Jiankou (箭扣), where we were camping, was constructed in 1368 and has never been restored.
- The Dunning-Kruger Effect basically states that when people have a low level of skill for a certain task, they tend to overestimate their skill level at that task.
- We didn't talk about this during the podcast, but these infographics help to explain the cultural differences between Germany (or “The West”) and China (“The East”).
- Apparently Amazon Prime Air is real, and it's coming to an airspace near you.
- It is forbidden to fly a drone over the Forbidden City in Beijing. Just ask Trey Ratcliff.
- You can hear Roni Rodrigues tell his story of flying his drone over Lake Baikal here.
- Here's an explanation of the notion that You Remember 10% of what you read.... It's not really quantifiable, as we suggested during the podcast.
And now for some photos from our hike on the Great Wall of China:
Matt and Jess.
Me and Katie on the wall at Jiankou.
Down-climbing.
Breakfast on the wall.
Watching the sunrise.
Looking down the valley toward Huairou.
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